Catalan politicians enter Catalan prisons

Fernando Grande-Marlaska denied today on his arrival at the Congress that the rapprochement of the Catalan political prisoners is the payment of some kind of “toll” to the independentistas for their support of the motion of censure that led Pedro Sánchez to the Moncloa.

The head of the Interior Department, who is ultimately responsible for the decision to transfer the nine leaders of the process, has stated that the government has simply “strictly complied with the law”, which states that prisoners must be held in centres close to their places of residence. In this regard, he stressed that the Catalan prisoners met the requirements for transfer, in particular that the judicial investigation had been “concluded” and the “approval” of the judge in the case, the Supreme Court judge Pablo Llarena, in the sense that he “did not need the physical presence of those under investigation” in Madrid.

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Catalonia Was The Heart Of The Republican Side Of The Spanish Civil War

How Has Catalonia Continued Being So Nationalist – Finally Catalonia Was The Heart Of The Republican Side Of The Spanish Civil War

Estat Catala While provoking a prominent anticrown and anticastillian movement across the population of those territories, the count forced the citiziens to do so in the course of the last years of the 80 years war.

Basically, Catalonia was always the non mainstream part of Spain.

More details are found in this wiki article on Catalonia. It formed the heart of the Kingdom of Aragon, that was united to most of Spain by the marriage of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile. At this point of history it’s clearly noticeable a merely political clash of cultures, that didn’t go anywhere further as every Trastamara dinasty king accepted the different region’s laws and constitutions or quickly removed opositors without big bloodbaths. This point doesn’t need much explanation.

Estat Catala Social engineering doesn’t end at school, and reaches almost all civil society in Catalonia thanks to the generous spending of public money the Catalonian government had been doing. By 1713, the war was slightly lost on the Habsburg side, and England pacted a peace treaty since the tories got their hands on the government. During 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 different ‘nonbinding’, community driven referendums were made on the independence of catalonia in many cities and villages. By 1983, Franco had died, spain had it’s first constitution, Catalonia had recovered their republican Estatuts, there had been another coup, and CIU had won the Catalan elections. That’s right! It was the events succeded during his visit on catalonia, and pretty much similar happened on his visits on Aragon and Valencia. Therefore by 1702 half the world had joined his cause Phillip at that time was seen neutrally from catalonia, as Charles since King of The Spains. Although, ofcourse, there was a lot more repression than that.

Estat Catala Martin Ist the Human, the dinasty of Alphonse the cast died, with the death of the last member of the house of barcelona.

Catalonia rebelled in 1640, with Portugal, that won its independence from Castile.

Catalonia rebelled again against ‘Frenchcontrolled’ Spain throughout the War of Spanish succession, and on more than one occasion in the course of the nineteenth century. Spain barely recovered Catalonia as long as the alternative was even less palatable French rule. By the end of the 19th century, though, there was a rise on the nationalist movements, and the legends and tales of old were rewritten and the language recorded in the first dictionaries. The loss of the Rousillon, a pretty valued region, was seen as treason by the loyalist catalans, and as an act of villany from france’s and spain’s side by the rebel catalans.

Catalan was banned from law, clerical or administrative use, and the Phillip’s advisors ordered the territory to be slowly populated by ex soldiers, to lower the chance of fulture turmoil. The things i’ll always remember is what my grand grandmother told me about the visits of Franco. The idea behind this project was to protect the language, that was already declining, and teach it quickly to the new generations. This project seeked to regain the normative use of catalan by the citiziens, by creating a Catalan Language and Literature class, and making every class mainly in catalan, therefore, every student had atleast double teaching time in catalan than in castillian. CiU gave support in Madrid in exchange of concessions in Catalonia.

Each citizien of every one of these regions has inherent rights by being so, as an example, a citizien from Valencia can’t be rallied as levy if the courts of valencia haven’t said so, and it’s the courts that dictates the taxes, the grants, and similar. On the rural regions people kept speaking and talking catalan, it pretty much worked on the more industrial cities, mostly Barcelona.

Catalonia Will After That, Hold A Referendum To Ratify The Constitution Once I Know Its Ready In Accordance With The Roadmap

Catalonia Will After That, Hold A Referendum To Ratify The Constitution Once I Know Its Ready In Accordance With The Roadmap

Instead, Madrid will gradually put the squeeze on Catalonia, that relies onregional funds controlled by Madrid.

The Spanish government also will rely on the Constitutional Court, that last year gained the authority to introduce penal and financial sanctions on regional governments that violate the Spanish Constitution.

Far, quite a few Catalonia’s steps toward secession been symbolic, similar to the approval of a solemn proclamation of first pace of the process of independence. These measures are inconsequential. Notice that planning a family vacation ain’t an easy job, the intention is to please everyone, so we recommend visiting Punta Cana. Seriously. The appointment of a Catalan government lowers the likelihood of an alliance between the Socialist Party and left wing Podemos as long as Podemos supports an independence referendum in Catalonia and the Socialists do not. Loads of info can be found easily online. From the bride in a middle of a nervous breakdown before the wedding, till the surprising proposal in a helicopter.

Catalonia Carte restaurant was recently opened at Catalonia Royal Bavaro, our resort at Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic.

Madrid hopes that internal tensions, financial pressure and legal threats will cause the Catalan government to collapse.

The second problem associated with Catalonia’s push for independence is if the rebel government in Barcelona will respect any decisions by the Constitutional Court and whether Madrid will use security forces to enforce court decisions. Stratfor believes so it’s the most certainly scenario. The most drastic would’ve been to suspend Catalonia’s regional autonomy and take direct control of the Catalan regional government itself. Spain has many options to stop the process. You see, almost half the electorate in Catalonia voted for pro independence parties and may be moved to protest the use of police against Catalan elected officials, the use of security forces against Catalan officials probably should lead to social unrest. Catalonia In the past, Catalan police have said they should respect the chain of command and obey any orders given by the Spanish court.

The Socialist Party said Jan.

Spain’s territorial unity but insisted it would not enter a grand coalition with the Popular Party. Accordingly the Socialists will encounter greater political pressure to allow the Popular Party their traditional rival to form a government, or even to be a part of a Popular Party led government. Actually, some significant problems remain, even if Madrid can resist Catalonia’s secessionist push. Usually, a caretaker government is in charge in Madrid as the general elections in Decemberproduced a hung parliament, with intention to begin with. The Spanish parliament will restart sessions the week of Jan. Sounds familiar? Will begin formal negotiations to create a government since King Felipe’s supervision. The agreement has exposed the fragility of the ‘prosecession’ camp.

Some members of Together for Yes believe their party has made should proceed with a plan to declare independence from Spain within 18 months. Three and a half months after regional elections concluded, the Catalan Parliament finally appointed a government Jan. Now please pay attention.

Visit soon Catalonia Royal Bavaro in Punta Cana and discover the novelties we have for you. So in case they both abstain during a vote in parliament, the Popular Party could form a minority government, even if these parties do not actively support the Popular Party.

Acting Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy’s conservative Popular Party is seeking support from the centrist Ciudadanos and the centerleft Socialist Party to remain in power.

Whenever as pointed out by a roadmap to independencepresented in November, Catalonia will begin creating the institutions and structures of an independent state over the next 18 months.

This involves the creation of new ministries and a reserve bank and the drafting of a constitution. Anyway, as indicated by the roadmap, Catalonia will hold a referendum to ratify the constitution once That’s a fact, it’s ready.

How Likely Is Catalan Independence The Domain Of Spain

How Likely Is Catalan Independence The Domain Of Spain – There Was Almost 2 Million People In The Street On 1109

Catalonia Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy will probably never show unbridled zeal for further reforms to the Statute of Autonomy, unlike Zapatero ten years ago. Nor is he going to recite Catalan poetry to delight a crowd in Barcelona. In revenge Catalans poisoned the imposed king, nevertheless the harm was done. Catalonia never chose to joint kingdoms with Castile. Fact, not surprisingly two generations later Ferdinand, his grandchild, married Isabel, both from Castilian dynasties. So, from the Castilian dynasty of the Trastamara, Well, to understand who did it we need to remember that his successor was not from the House of Barcelona. Therefore, by those who had the most to win from his death.

And now here’s the question. By whom?

Marti the Human was poisoned.

CataloniaCastilian king had been put on the Catalan Aragones crown. That said, who were they? This proofs that what I said in my previous article is correct. Anyway, central government is out of touch with the 21st Century. Generally, imagine if you should call a Square in La Havana by the name of George Bush!!! As a result, margaret Thacher’s Square in Madrid, just days after the square was inaugurated and attended by Mayor of Madrid and identical PP supporters.

Catalonia is a nation and Catalan is his national language. What a hell are you talking about Occitane? Please, leave us alone the British, you can not rip/extort us forever, we have crude oil and we have refineries yet none of them were functioning only to take the crude to England to refine and bring it back to us a refined products. Our fellow Biafrans brothers and sisters were all over the world seeking for greener pastures whereas we have it in our own land. We are old enough to use our tongue to count our teeth. Now let me tell you something. Very strange indeed!

It is high time you stopped playing this civics with our lives.

We need to be left alone.

Sheer greed from the British people. Certainly, hmmm! Catalan people for once going to be given the opportunity to voice their feelings as Scotland has done, otherwise repression continues under the name of ‘democratic fascism’. Anti gay, anti immigration, anti abortion, anti everything which belongs to progression in the 21st Century, it is the Spanish Centralism and the sooner we will understand that this retrograde mentality is the cause of the unease in Spain, the sooner we will allow people to be themselves and progress as individual communities, and so it is the Cataloniaexample of Catalonia. We are very intolerant of unfairness, discrimination and repression caused by facism, we Catalan love people that merely noted that, however impressive these outpourings of support this particular ruling, The Spanish Constitutional Court is expected to deny Catalonia the right to hold a referendum to decide its future. Now the Catalan president, has not ruled out the adoption, of an unilateral declaration of independence. Thence the battle lines are drawn.

It is the contrary of evolution and freedom.

Spain is the country where fascism has not been condemned. Oftentimes enough to lie. Cinism. The place where oligarchism had been running the country against the interests of their own people for centuries. Where the heritage of fascism is nowadays the kingdom of corruption. Do not practice cinism as spanish politicians do nacho. This is the case. Catalonia would still need the votes of two the General thirds Assembly’s one hundred and ninety three countries to become a member, even if the Security Council recommended membership. What about the United Nations? Do those not old enough to vote truly learn the impact if Catalonia becomes independent? Also, until you truly educate yourself about what this means, you naturally tend to regurgitate what you hear from your parents, family and friends. Known all it needs is a proper elected Parliament, President and common language.

Since it provides a framework of political unity while at really similar time respecting the very different cultures that heretofore were Yugoslave’d into amalgamated Nation States, The EU actually helps this.

Indeed, the EU facilitates the dissolution of the historical Nation States in favor of a much larger Federal Nation.

This isn’t something about the Catalans necessarily hating quite a bit of Spain, no, it’s all about Catalans -as usual, as always realizing that they really my be better off by themselves. The Spanish Gov. You should take it into account. Catalans don’t hate Spain, they hate the Spanish centralism, that for ages was plundering Catalonia’s resources.a lot of streets in Madrid still bear the name of Franco’s Generals and politicians, it’s as though the Nazi Party, and the Italian National Fascist Party were still legal in Germany and Italy; therefore don’t you think that Catalonia shouldn’t eliminate Spain, The Spanish Constitution was drawn up, La Falange is also still alive and kicking, and furthermore, the PP has refused to condemn Franco’s dictatorship. Imagine, for a moment, that Catalonia Cataloniais independent and those countries are still against its entry into the EEC, what really would happen if Catalonia started to look for an international partner?  Catalans feel for Spanish institutions.

Up to this point, the huge poser of Catalonian independence had been given the silent treatment by international organizations, that have made it clear that they regard this as an internal Spanish affair.

What should Europe and some of the world do? It is josé Manuel Durão Barroso, president of the European Commission, has expressed the opinion that, on the basis of the rules of the EU governing treaty, any newly formed European state could be obliged to apply and negotiate for EU membership. Spain also insists that solidarity must be at the core of relations among its regional governments. Whenever noting that Spanish investment in Catalonia will drop twentyfive percent compared to an average decrease of 2 percent for the nation as a whole in the course of the current belttightening effort to stop the country’s economic free fall, so this has proven a double edged sword since the separatists claim that Catalonia is discriminated against within this community. I’m sure you heard about this. Madrid responds to Catalan complaints by claiming that Catalonia receives special assistance from the Spanish government, outside of money from the national budget, in the type of ad hoc loans to make payments not previously planned for.

The volatile elements of nation, language, and economy combined with a twenty three percent unemployment rate in Catalonia have given the rising separatist sentiment its distinctive character. Conforming to a poll by the nonpartisan Catalan Opinion Studies Center, a referendum to secede from Spain would narrowly pass ‘fiftyone’ percent for independence, if the vote were held today. We spoke Castilian on the street but we all spoke Catalan indoors. They are different and they look for freedom. Andora is a free state so what if we catalonia!! Let people live the way they seek for. Spain and the european union claim to be a democratic but they still think they can hide the truth. For instance, no, since at the core of taxation is the principle that the rich should fund the poor. Does it make economic sense to split off a region and turn into a country? Of course you could say so it’s of most regions of other European countries. Anyways, probably not if it plans to stay in the European Union. With that said, is the fact that taxes collected in Catalonia go to fund poorer regions in Spain a decent reason for independence. Definitely, provided so that’s done so that accepts Catalonia’s role within Spain, economically, politically and culturaly. On top of that, is Catalonia different to Spain?

As a European living in Catalonia for over a decade I can add some objectivity to the debate.

Nationalism is and always might be an emotional subject.

Should Catalonia be afforded more autonomy? The people of Biafra Republic was yearnings for their own state. We have right as indigenous people of Biafra for self determination. On what ground and law did Frederick Lugard bonded us together as Nigeria? The United Nation refused to acknowledged the atrocities committed by the Nigerian government, British, Egypts and quite a few of the western nations. On top of this, what a charade of justice!!! The man who amalgamated us by the name Frederick Lugard was from Scotland and being sent by the queen from England and yet the Scottish were looking for their own independent. Those who committed heinous crimes against the Biafrans were left alone with their heads high. We have fought the war and a solitary war where USA and Russia came together because of their economic considerations. The world is attempting to deceive us that we are one but we were never one from the inception of Nigeria.

Creation of Nigeria was erred by those imperialistic ideas.

World is forcing us to be together.

The war was between people of Biafra and Nigerian government with most of the world against Biafrans. Only fifty thousand died in Liberia and ICJ refused to let it off while three million and five hundred thousands plus died in the course of the Biafran war. They will hold us forever but we can not accept it any longer, Bringing divide and rule. Ok, and now one of the most important parts. We are above sixty million in population yet the marginalization exists in an open eyes without reminisce. Just think for a moment. The amalgamation of Nigeria expired on 31st of January after hundred years of amalgamation from the Zoological country of republic of Nigeria.

Nigeria name has no meaning in my language likewise other tribes.

The Biafrans were strangers in their own land, killings of Biafrans by the Boko Haram terrorists has becomes a norm.

What on earth where children were being starve to deaths and the world kept mute about it. Although, corruption, nepotism and killing going on without abating it. Know what, I would be voting for independence since Catalunya at heart is independent, Therefore if I lived in Barcelona nowadays. Even as much as I am NOT a progressive or socialist. Polls already show that younger generations are even stronger supporters of independence. You see, it was a tipping point, in the sense that there’s no way back, and as years pass, the support for independence shall be stronger. Besides, beware of nazis. Portugal if I force the people to learn catalan there. Normally, cIU ERC CUP and all these extremist catalan parties.

While rightwing Catalan nationalists’ Convergence and Union party, had been a solitary democratically elected Catalan president after the end of Francisco Franco’s ‘forty year’ military dictatorship, that was particularly oppressive to the Catalans, since 1980, Jordi Pujol, the charismatic leader of the moderate.

Pujol was not on the ballot in 2003, and his party had to yield power to a coalition of Catalan progressives made up of the Catalan socialists, the left wing pro independence Republican Left of Catalonia party, the Green party, and former communists riding on the wave of Zapatero’s promise. Socialist Pasqual Maragall became the president of Catalonia seventyfive years after his renowned grandfather, the poet Joan Maragall, wrote the ode Spain, listen to us, that today is on the tips of Catalans’ tongues as much as when it was first written. September 11, 2014, will mark the threehundredth anniversary of the Catalan defeat. Separatist parties set November 9, 2014, as the date for an independence referendum that should ask two questions, just after a long negotiation. Catalonia Catalan Parliament approved a motion on September 27, 2012, to formally request Madrid to authorize a self determination vote in Catalonia, with that date in mind. You seek for Catalonia to be a state, right? Despite the sixty five percent approval in the Catalan Parliament for Catalans to have the right to decide their own fate, Madrid considers the referendum a basic challenge to the Spanish rule of law specifically Article 8 of the Spanish Constitution, that proclaims the indissoluble unity of the Spanish nation and grants power to the nation’s armed forces to guarantee such unity. It isn’t true that a few of Spain hates Catalonia. Would some of Catalonia respect this decision? Union is making an attempt to claim independence, not much sense.

I’d say in case the souther province of Tarragona decides that they look for to continue to be part of Spain, will most of the catalonians accept this, as an example.

This is something that only extremist independists claim.

After reading all commnets I must say that some amount of you do ot have a minimun notion of what actually was going on. Notice, for sure So there’re people in Spain that do not like Catalonia, as lots of us are aware that there are Catalonias that do not like Andalusia or Galicia. There is some more info about this stuff here. At the we accept that catalonians must decide for their independence, we must also accept that soem might seek for to remain. Furthermore, freedom of trade, Obviously becoming independent means leaving the EU and being able to asume all consecuances no freedom of movements, no funds from the EU. Europe is striving to forge a Union that can compete with USA, Rusia. Essentially, what exactly would happen if most of the four catalonian regions decides that they do not seek for to be independent from Spain? Consequently, personally in my opinion wanting to become an independent country inside the EU does not make much sence, So it’s like going against the flow.

Are all citizens in Catalonia aware of the consecuences of their independence?

There are the comments of some catalonian secessionists that show only hate for everything that resembles Spain and on top of that must have the right to seek for their independence and asume the consecuences of it. Of course, spain and never come back. Catalunya going to be better off without Spain. Eventually, spanish politicians after that, throw away the money in useless ‘speedtrains’ without any travellers or in subsidies to those who prefer spending their day a the bar than working. Every time the Catalan Governmenet makes an effort to become more competitive in internation markets, the Spanish Government blocks the intiative either with new laws or with a sh.tload in the media. Catalonia had been robbed for decades. Well said, Scott I believe ultimately the root of the independence movement is financial.  That feeling of distrust already had deep roots in Catalonia, that had its own political, legal, and cultural structures long before Spain conquered the New World.

It was around the year 900 when Wilfred the Hairy broke away from the Frankish kings and began the House of Barcelona.

When the CatalanAragonese confederacy ruled the land, Homilies d’Organyà. Dates back to the twelfth century. My feeling on that’s that Catalans will hold the referedum and unilateraly declare their independence. Then, will Castille do it again? They have converted a true and sane love for one´s place of birth in a maligne dream that is spreading lies and hate galore just to justify what it was never what they say, what it has never been but in their twisted minds. Have you heard of something like this before? The dream was Quebec, lately Scotland.and so it goes. Bored intellectuals, well off progressive men from Barcelona have proved to be very dangerous. A well-known fact that is. What about an article about it, may I suggest to the author above?

Lies, lies and corruption.

One has to live, and have lived for a few years in the region to know.come on!

The regional linguistic regulations are dictatorial. The latter, in fact, is absent from the text. He shan’t dare. What can be expected of an article witten by a catalan independent? That’s right! Whenever mixing different scenarios, Wishful thinking. Notice that tHE PROBLEM WITH THE SPANISH IS THAT, WHEN THEY PUT THEIR PAWS ON SOMETHING THEY DON’T LET IT GO. That’s interesting right? THEY RATHER SEE IT DEAD THAN FREE. However, hundreds of thousands took to the streets of Barcelona in July 2010 to oppose the compromised 2006 Autonomy Statute, that nodded toward separatism but denied Catalonia status as a nation. While emulating the Baltic Way independence rally in Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia in 1989, in the course of the closing days of Soviet rule, Catalonia in what was called the Catalan Way, where people held hands to connect the land from the Pyrenees in the north to the Ebro River delta in the south. With all that said… Something has also changed. It was the largest demonstration in Spain since the end of Francoism and the restoration of democracy.

Whenever in the course of the past three years civil society movements, similar to the Catalan Assembly a grassroots organization calling itself an association of citizens have organized large independence demonstrations seeking to create national sympathy for their movement, Well aware of this situation.

Since the Constitution assumes Spanish territorial integrity as an unalterable given can head only in one direction toward a political dead end, the Catalan independence movement.

In consonance with a brand new European state. Nevertheless, well written article that summarizes the evolution of the pro independence movement in Catalonia. Then again, they have a racist, demagogic and not democratic message. Spanish version of populism. Usually, we can not forget the use of the regional public administration in favour to this project. Make sure you scratch a comment about it below. Its language is violent and false. It’s a well how could fellow Europeans accept an independent Catalonia when Catalonia can’t even get together with quite a bit of Spain? Catalonia France, Germany and Italy will never support an independent Catalonian state.

Independence is madness in a world that seeks to be more inclusive.

Flags and nationalisms rely on toxic, short sighted, contorted points of view. What has done a catalan to you?Even I’d say if you spent a certain amount your time teaching your country man women about democracy, and about division of powers in a modern and domocratic european state, we, the catalans shouldn’t have so many stones on the route to cast a vote. Just keep reading. There is, but, an important point that isn’t mentioned. Remember, very good abstract on the history of these last 1000 years. We men of Barcelona or Catalonia are an ideal example to the world, we promote peace, human rights and democracy. For example, barcelona very dangerous? Needless to say, you are not making any sense and likewise you are insulting. IN FACT I WAS THERE AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WAS PEACEFUL, AMICABLE AND AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING DEMONSTRATION.

We Catalan was swallowing for decades and centuries the authoritarian approach of Central Government.

SURELY THEY WERE NOT ALL TWISTED MINDS, MALIGNE DREAMERS OR DANGEROUS.

Bla, bla.you are a very rude person!! Regional linguistic regulations dictatorial? Actually, how dare you telling me which language should I speak, how dare you striving to deny me speaking my mother language. What are you talking about?!!! If you need to continue with his ‘ways’ of governing, Enough is enough, Franco died in 1975, it’s up to you!!, so it’s your choice, we don’t look for and will never look for!! Plenty of info can be found by going online. THERE WAS ALMOST 2 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREET ON 11/ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THIS? I actually can guarantee you that it will once again try to erase Catalan from the Earth, if Central Government could. Nonetheless, my only concern is that Barça must stay in La Liga.